February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

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February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by Grobi » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:43 am

Hi everybody,

team The Diamonds have decided on the February ctc:

„The Diamonds have concluded their poll and decided on the February CTC:

All the 60's
Row 12 x 60 secs - 60 secs rest between each.
With 5 making up a boat that makes 60 x 60 secs in total.

First rep from a standing start, others as you like.“
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by fkoene » Mon Jan 27, 2020 11:58 am

Certainly looks like fun

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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by Iain » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:29 pm

Any ideas on pacing? 10 x is around 1k pace, but personally I find each extra interval makes a big difference as the rest is insufficient to recover and I badly underestimated this with the 1' rest this month!
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by hewitt » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:38 pm

Just found Monday morning session. 8)
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 11:43 am

Hi Iain,

Good question and as Plummy had a go yesterday hopefully he'll have the answer. My current guesstimates are...

1. A recent 6x1.5mins r1 was @1:38.3. As it's the end of each interval that's tough and with the benefit of rolling starts I wonder if reducing to 1min and doubling the intervals might be similar.

2. I looked at some of the times this month and noticed a guy called Adam Eshborn posted a pace of 1:39.6 which is close to my 1k time. Last month his pace was 1:42.5 compared to my 1:40.4. If I apply that difference of 2.1 to this months challenge then I should aim for 1:37.5.

There are loads of reasons why these could be totally wrong but I'm currently thinking 1-2s faster than 1k. My best recent 1k is 1:39.5 so maybe I'll aim for 1:38.

PS I reserve the right to rapidly backtrack if it turns out I'm being wildly optimistic!
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by plummy » Sun Feb 02, 2020 1:20 pm

I used a 20 x 300m I did a few weeks ago as a guide when I managed 1:51.4 average, basically assuming I "ought" to be able to go a tad quicker than that. Worked out to be true.
My mistake was to start with 271, 272, 273, 274 on the first 4 reps so my OCD head decided (even though I knew it was a bit insane) to try and go 1m quicker for every rep. Didn't quite manage that as I jumped 2m on rep 7 and 2m more on 9. Last rep was my best at 285m - there was NOTHING in the tank at the end.
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:53 pm

Of course, June's CTC. How could I forget! Your pace @1:48.6 is an impressive 2.8s faster =D> =D> =D> . Not sure I can match that improvement which would mean 1:36.7. As always the only real way to find out is to give it a go which hopefully I will do this week.
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by JonT » Mon Feb 03, 2020 8:51 pm

Here we go again. I got home from a tricky day and decided to take things out on the erg. No point doing the C2CTC yet I thought, not until Plummy has put in a time to chase. How wrong was I. The gauntlet was already tossed and laying in front of me.

I had intended to use a derivative of my current 2k time as a marker, but no need now. I saw Iain's comment about 1k pace below, but that sounded very optimistic to me. Maybe 2k - 5? That would have been 1:47. Off I set in pursuit of Mr Plumb at a pace of 1:46.8.

Time Meters Pace Watts S/M HR
1:00.0 286m 1:44.8 303 32 163 - Fell straight in to the "This is going to be easier than I imagined" trap. Why don't I learn? #-o
1:00.0 285m 1:45.2 300 30 170 - Already slowing down, but if I can keep it here I am doing ok.
1:00.0 283m 1:46.0 294 30 173 - Ah, yes I remember now. It always feels easy at the start. The voices in my head have now started. :(
1:00.0 281m 1:46.7 288 31 173
1:00.0 278m 1:47.9 279 30 172 - Starting to feel a bit resigned. Managing to keep HR steady but losing pace each interval
1:00.0 276m 1:48.6 273 30 173
1:00.0 278m 1:47.9 279 31 176 - HR rising and Plummy disappearing over the horizon. My average must be drifting up rapidly now.
1:00.0 284m 1:45.6 297 31 180 - HR up and up. I'm not going to finish at this rate. Just chill and accept that at least you will put a time in
1:00.0 283m 1:46.0 294 31 181
1:00.0 276m 1:48.6 273 31 177 - NO!!!! Red Hot Chilli Peppers decide to play a ballad at this point on my rowing sound track. Doomed :(
1:00.0 281m 1:46.7 288 31 181
1:00.0 282m 1:46.3 291 31 182 - Sigh. Oh well, nothing in the tank for the last interval.

But hold on, to my surprise I averaged 1:46.8, exactly the same as Plummy! I banged in the distance to see who would pip the other on the leader board, only to realise I had been chasing the wrong time! I had mixed up the digits in my head. Plummy was 1:48.6, not 1:46.8. :oops:

Plummy. I toss back the gauntlet. There's plenty of the month left sir. There are only 5 strokes between us (roughly!)

By the way, in terms of pace I ended up 6 seconds faster than my 2k pace, if that helps.
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by Wolfmiester » Tue Feb 04, 2020 9:25 am

ha ha, very well done Jon!
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by hewitt » Tue Feb 04, 2020 11:31 am

Not all out.
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by fkoene » Fri Feb 07, 2020 6:14 pm

It hurts. This might well be my one and only attempt on this one. I was hoping for a 1:40 pace and I finished more than a second faster so what more is there to wish for :fswink: , with the IRL 2K also on my list...
Everey rep at least 300 meters and the last one the fastest along with the third one, quite happy with it.
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 7:08 pm

Jon, Great rowing and a great write up =D> =D> =D>
Jason, That looks like a rather impressive pace for a rate capped 22 spm effort =D> =D> =D>
Fred, You are setting the bar rather high =D> =D> =D>
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by hewitt » Tue Feb 11, 2020 7:24 pm

Thanks Max. :fssmile: . Decided to go again after 8 hours of overtime. Must have been trying hard my throat is burning. :lol:
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Re: February ctc - 12 x 60‘‘/60“r

Post by Wolfmiester » Wed Feb 12, 2020 5:19 pm

ouch, didn't like that.
Thought I'd be able to give Fred a run for his money but after only 3 reps at 1:39 I slowed right down.
Finished with 3544 @ 1:41.5 ave.
Will probably leave it there. Well done Fred =D> .
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