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Nonathlon 2025-26

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I have grabbed my 2024-2025 comparison chart here to have a think about what I'd like to do this year and what I would like that chart to look like.

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It's clear I didn't have a great season in 24-25 with COVID knocking me out for months and then a back injury. It looks like I held my own in the medium distances but fell way short in the 2-6K range. Hopefully the CTC will help me with the 6K and I really should have done better on the 2K. Doing the RowAlong plan will hopefully give me a far better foundation this year.

What does your chart look like? Where are you looking to make improvements this season?

If you don't know how to access a chart like this for your times, just access the Nonathlon analyser and click on your name in the table.

I will leave the tool looking at 24-25 for a week or so, so that people can respond here if they want to.
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Yay! Just discovered that I won the MetaNonathlon for 2024-25. Makes all the hard work chasing SBs and RBs worthwhile!
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So mine shows that I did much better than I did in the (weak) 2024 season, which in turn explains my success on the MetaNonathlon.
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Interesting that the two years have a similar shape Mike, with a dip at the top across two ends of the distance spectrum - 500m and HM.
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Yeah, basically I was rubbish at 500m and FM both times!
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Mike Channin wrote:Yeah, basically I was rubbish at 500m and FM both times!
It’s that type of deep insight that I was hoping for when I wrote the tool. Image


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JonT wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 4:41 am
Mike Channin wrote:Yeah, basically I was rubbish at 500m and FM both times!
It’s that type of deep insight that I was hoping for when I wrote the tool. Image


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JonT wrote: Sat May 03, 2025 4:41 am
Mike Channin wrote:Yeah, basically I was rubbish at 500m and FM both times!
It’s that type of deep insight that I was hoping for when I wrote the tool. Image


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As, Plummy says :lol: :lol: :lol:

Going a little deeper (to pay service to the tool!) the ends of the range of distances are always going to be harder and less effective to prioritise.
I managed to injure myself when going for a 500m once in the last 2 or 3 seasons, which has led to additional reticence to risk form by doing sprints. Traditionally, I used to do relatively well on the short sprints, so I need to do some more power training and make sure I'm not losing this part of my armory!
The FM has been a long-term weakness, simply because of the specialist training it requires, and although I did managed a half-decent time last season, it's still nowhere near the comparative level of the main pieces.

On the flip side, the HM was the 'best', partially because I did a lot of distance conditioning (even at low pace), and partially because it is one I've always been relatively good at. My usual weakness is the 2k, and I worked on that, and managed to make it at least a bit less weak.

Up to date, and I am doing pretty well on Nonathlon 2026 (mainly courtesy of the horrible aggressive-positive-splitter 10k which brings in a set of early-season SB markers). Nonathlon seems to have launched earlier into the new season than it sometimes does. And I see a Plumb and a Taylor are on the move too!
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Hahaha. My brief reign at the head of the Nonathlon board looks to be over now, as someone with good times has overtaken me (and despite me adding another 163 points today too!)

Oh, and for Jon's analytical insights benefits, I remained crap at the 500m today too. Doing it after the other aggressive SB 6k piece, and also trying the extreme positive split to get a 1 min time caused me to blow up at 61seconds and limp home in 1:47.6, which was slower than the 1st 500m of the 6k (1:44.8 ). :lol:
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Mike Channin wrote: Wed May 07, 2025 6:26 pmHahaha. My brief reign at the head of the Nonathlon board looks to be over now, as someone with good times has overtaken me (and despite me adding another 163 points today too!)
Mike, a half decent 60min or HM would put you back on top, at least temporarily :twisted:
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Iain wrote: Thu May 08, 2025 8:01 am Mike, a half decent 60min or HM would put you back on top, at least temporarily :twisted:
Oh, you _had_ to say that, didn't you.
Cue another stupidly positive split attempt, notionally at the FM (although knowing that there was a good chance of not completing)
Target was to run at 2:00 pace for the HM, and then see if I felt like hanging on to see out the FM (another 100 points on offer for the full set, regardless of time, plus I still need one for the C2 Challenge).

Started off well (really well, in fact, considering that 2:00 pace is pretty close to last season's SB at HM).
Started to feel it around 10k, which was pretty good, considering the pace.
Coming up to the hour, and my stomach was feeling less happy (maybe that Mexican yesterday lunchtime wasn't the best preparation...)
Got through the hour at 15,001, and toughed out hanging on to complete the HM. Was dropping off the pace during each interval, but then pulling it back at the end (just).
Made it through at 1:24:22.0, then backed off and cruised at 2:24, although this was still giving a 3:06 indicated, which I was prepared to keep going for.
Managed another 10 mins or so before the Mexican called a halt for a comfort break.
Got back on again, and was considering plodding out to complete the FM, but I was now just doing 2:30ish, and the HRM was playing up too. The time was now predicting more like 3:20+, and I decided that I'd rather save the time and do a better FM some other time.

(I don't think I've ever set for a FM and NOT completed before, but I've done it twice in the last week - both times due to putting it on as a speculative target, in case I had time and energy to complete, despite not being prepared. Both times I felt I could have completed, but wanted to do a better time. Hope I don't regret not finishing one of them...)
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So, I'm (temporarily) back in P1 on the 2025/27 Nonathlon on 7711 points, which is more than I've had at the END of some years recently, so I will take that for 9 days in!
I also have my first 900+ score with a 913 for today's HM.
Aim is to top 8000, and ideally beat my last season's 8087.
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Jon - how easy is it to get a Spider Plot of my last *3* years Scores? (It'd be interesting to (hopefully) watch this year's scores push out to catch last year's, while keeping the scale consistent, and hopefully seeing them as already beating the year before that.)
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Well done Mike.
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Shame you didn't continue as someone has pipped you again. Still, you have had more than your 15 mins of fame!
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Hahaha - yes. And by less than 100 points!!!
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Not that I’m expecting to stay high on the table. But Iain’s comment was just too tempting…
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Mike Channin wrote: Fri May 09, 2025 2:41 pm Jon - how easy is it to get a Spider Plot of my last *3* years Scores? (It'd be interesting to (hopefully) watch this year's scores push out to catch last year's, while keeping the scale consistent, and hopefully seeing them as already beating the year before that.)
Not simple. If I had more time, which I don;t at the moment, I would have a crack at it. Leave it with me and I'll have a think about it later in the summer when (hopefully) things are a little less busy.
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I've switched the Nonathlon analyser and Metanonathlon over to this year's results.

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P.S. There's an annoying bug in the Metanonathlon whereby the table shows a rounded figure and the colour coding uses actual. So I have a score of 100 which is coded as amber rather than green, because the actual score is 99.88. I'll add it to me ever-so-long to-do list!
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Many thanks Jon, please would you add me to the list? Re the above "bug", isn't this the correct result? The only option I would have thought is to not round the numbers as much, but I assume that would mean it wouldn't fit on a small screen. Given the unrounded number is visible by hovering over the number, I am happy with it as it is!
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The tool should pick you up from last year Iain. Did you change your userid on Nonathlon?


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Not that I was aware of, still iain.
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Iain wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 7:05 am Not that I was aware of, still iain.
You were Iain last year by the look of it. Don't worry, I can fix it at our end (when I get a moment).
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No hurry, happy to not appear until I have done a few all out TTs!
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Iain wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 9:29 am No hurry, happy to not appear until I have done a few all out TTs!
This is fixed now. I have a tool to handle when/if people change their userid, but I forget each year how it works. This year I've made some notes which no doubt will mean nothing to me by this time next year #-o
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