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This is meant to be a philosphical/spiritual post.

what is "to be fit" ?

We could talk about here, not on facebook.

just a few words.

Athletes tend to have a different perception of themselfs, they are chalenging themselfs, they also have to care about recovery. Here we have this dualism we are finding so often, also in philosophy, take Nietzsche: Dionysus vs. Apollo. Take Christanity: good and evil. And so on...
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forget about that fb group, if there ever will be a discussion, then we do it here
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I just wanted to have some answers from some real athletes, i love your quote Peter: Athletes row, others just play games :!: =D>
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Speaking of dualism, I had a coach that used to tell us “It’s all fun and games until someone gets it in the eye. Then it’s a sport”.
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alien878 wrote:“It’s all fun and games until someone gets it in the eye. Then it’s a sport”.
Yes, and you can make out of this a concept, too. ImageImageImage

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I started this conversation here to bring up some fresh air. Because of our recent conversation "is anybody out there". Be as limitless, as free you want to be. Just be brave and run with a thought experiment. It can lead us into any direction.

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Claudius wrote: Sat May 21, 2022 11:58 am what is "to be fit" ?
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Athletes tend to have a different perception of themselfs, they are chalenging themselfs, they also have to care about recovery.
One thing I've noticed as I age is that "being fit" changes over time. As a young man, I thought being fit was getting as muscle-y as I could with my body-building and strength training. These days (closing in on 57), I'm of a mind that "being fit" is simply being as active and healthy as I desire to be and hopefully still being able to do the things I want to do without hurting myself too badly... :)

Most of my fitness training has taken on an aerobic quality vs the anaerobic weightlifting that I used to do a lot of. Now my weight-training sessions are short and my rowing/cycling/hiking sessions are long.
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I had to smile about that bodybuilding thing, I was in it,too, as a Teenie, Arnie the big hero, more muscles you want?
Draggon wrote: "being fit" is simply being as active and healthy as I desire to be and hopefully still being able to do the things I want to do without hurting myself too badly...
This is good, by elaborating this, one can say, beeing fit is a feeling, which derives if ones ideals and the given reality match. The difficulty in this equation is that most of us are not fully aware of one's ideals and reality. One simply represses the ideal or reality, in most cases both of them, or due to a sudden change in life, maybe an accident or injury, reality changes, the dams of ideal and reality breaches. In a fantasy way this marks here the descent into the Underworld. I have learned to forget about those ideals, to enjoy every ride,run and row workout, every hike and swim unit, be thankful for every cold air intake in a xc skiing or winter walk. You do not knows what comes tomorrow.


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This is exactly why I am not a philosopher, although technically I am a Doctor of Philosophy, which always struck me as odd for a mathematician and computer scientist! But philosophy is hard and I have never become familiar with the frameworks and models. Anyway......here is a bit of a ramble, in the spirit of not overthinking with the result that I end up writing nothing.

For me being fit is not being unfit. Being unfit for me would be to be unable to do the types of physical activities that I wish to do - "that looks like a nice mountain, I will walk up it without a near-death experience".

Somehow, in my mind there is a relative scale which I would not actually be able to define. This would range from unfit->fit->very fit. I used to strive for "very fit", always competing with someone or something, pushing myself extremely hard, and wanting to be far "fitter" than the majority of the population. This is only a few years ago. Now I am much more relaxed and my definition of "fit" has changed to more of a mental state of "not worrying about whether I should be doing more exercise and being more active". If I am exercising regularly, and in a meaningful way then I would consider myself as "fit" in some sense.

There is also a link for me between physical and mental fitness. I definitely feel far more "blue" when I am not exercising 4-6 times each week. I forget about this and wonder why I am feeling a bit glum, and then I do a workout and remember about the link.

I also think there was a link between fitness and being able to compete in the recent past. I would definitely have linked how fit I was to how I was doing in terms of SB/PB performance and also in events like IRL, CTC and Nonathlon. I am far less worried about this now, and so my definition of "fit" has also probably changed. In previous years I would have easily said "my Nonathlon scores are below 900, I am losing fitness". Now I can't imagine saying anything like that....well, I don't think I can anyway.

End of ramble.

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