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40 mins 13.7k 90 rpm TE 3.1

Felt good today so started my TACX trainer free cycle limiting watts - 2 legged.

Thought I might as well get some practice at 90+ rpm as I'm limited/limiting my power at present and I've read about having some rate sessions not worrying about power - getting used to faster cadence - IDEAL 8) :lol:

Gradually bult up to 130 watts (best yet) - of course the effort is less at this higher cadence - and it gave me no discomfort c/w 60-80 watts earler in the week :-D

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Working surprisingly "hard" TE 3.1 - well not hard but better CV training than I thought it would be - felt easy throughout 8)

Shower then pub to meet with my usual Tuesday cycle group who are specifically coming to Milverton to be sociable!! :-D
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Upped resistance and time today - trying to keep cadence up.

60 mins 25.5k 90 rpm 150watts TE 4.5

No negative symptoms from hip :-D Just did what felt comfortable :-D
Heart rate gradually drifted up EPOC peak 199 TE 4.5, 25.5km c/w 13km in 40mins yesterday 8)

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Really nice steady CV session, listening to J.J.Cale. Some up tempo stuff really helped with the cadence
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Well it looks like the carb loading last night helped with that workout Huw :lol:
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Great progress Huw-keep it up :D
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strider77 wrote:Great progress Huw-keep it up :D
Thanks Alan
colin bradley wrote:Well it looks like the carb loading last night helped with that workout Huw :lol:
More tonight I'm sure :roll: =D> =D> =D> =D>

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I'm quaking already Huw. I think the slender advantage I was hoping to build up will be very short-lived :(

Seriously - hope your progress is swift and sure. I suppose being a doctor helps in understanding how fast you can build the training up :wink:
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Hi Huw

Good to see you are able to keep your fitness ticking over while the hip heals.
I have been doing a fair bit of cycling myself and am pretty sure the biking fitness has had a beneficial effect on the erging.
Don't have too much in the way of numbers for my rides as I don't have Tac-x trainers or Garmin trackers and all that, so just the basics.

Not too much this week so far - I did a flattish 180km route on the road-bike on Saturday, averaging 29.1 km/h.
Today - 91.3k on the MTB at 23.1km/h average.
Planning to do about 100k this Saturday on the road bike, and have entered a 110k audax ride on Sunday - as it is a very hilly route I am going to do it on the MTB, and will be riding to and from the race, to make up a total of anywhere between 170 and 200km - I am looking forward to it but I know it is going to be a LOOONG day in the saddle.

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Good luck on the training and Audax Paul - hope the weather's nice
Don't worry Scoop - I'll be after you on the rower ASAP - when doc lets me!

Just bought The Cyclist's Training Bible trying to optimise my training to improve my pace and performance - when I get back on the bike :roll:
Aiming to do 2 road rides/week and then 4 days with mixture of rowing and turbo through the summer - turning back to erg ready for the Autumn [-o< [-o<


More cadence training on Turbo today - 60 mins @ 90-100 rpm - I like this! :lol:
Suits me at present as I'm not worrying about power - just building up time and gluteals 8)

Starting to get used to 90 rpm :-D This was my default today, then periods of 2mins 100 followed by 1 min @115+
Did several of these 3 min bursts during the hour - and then settled back to 90 rpm for a rest!

Tacx Crashed at 30ish minutes so lost the read out - just restarted and did a second 30 mins. First 30 mins was the same format without 5 mins CD at the end.

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FBA heart trace was ok throughout.

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60 mins TE 4.2 EPOC peak 166 Av watts 150, av cadence 88 (excl cd) 30 km :-D

Used the CD to use minimal resistance and get down to normal riding position. Getting the hip used to the degree of hip flexion needed. :oops:
Listening to JJ Cale again (with Eric Clapton) and watching Sharapova :-O
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Quick 25 mins today on tacx, 5 mins wu, 2 mins cd and alternating 90/100/110 rpm in the middle

11.5k, 28 kph av cadence 88 av watts 141 TE 3.1
I'll try for another session later today :-D FBA now thinks my Activity class is back up to 7.5 :roll: =D> =D>


Then this evening - absolutely crazy I know.... :roll: :lol: :lol:
Loaded the TDF gps Track from MapMyTracks and loaded it on Tacx

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working really hard! av Cadence 96 - big chain wheel 3/8 on backU

6:54k 11:20 av 34.6k/h max 53 kph av 199 watts :-O
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TE 3.1 again -- look at that red!!!! :shock:
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More relaxing day - set a 150 watt limited ride 35 mins - kept it at 90 rpm and settled into an easy middle ring, with 5x alternate 1m@90 1 min @100 rpm at the end :-D

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15km, 35 mins
av 136watts
av 89 rpm
av 26.1 k/hr
max hr 157 av 137
TE 3.5
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Looks like it's coming along nicely now Huw.You will soon be out on the road again. I managed to get out on the bike today \:D/ ( no shoulder pain) :) to watch a 91 year old Tommy Godwin a London 1948 cycling bronze medalist carry the torch, A special day.
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colin bradley wrote:Looks like it's coming along nicely now Huw.You will soon be out on the road again. I managed to get out on the bike today \:D/ ( no shoulder pain) :) to watch a 91 year old Tommy Godwin a London 1948 cycling bronze medalist carry the torch, A special day.
Sounds a wonderful tribute and an amazing man 8)
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Still building aerobic base over next month
Stage 2 TDF on TV

Picked 30k from the middle and rode the virtual course :-D


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cadence 83 :D 29 kph

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TE 3.4 8)


Go Cav!!!!! 8) Great stage win !!
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Huw, I have no idea what all the pretty graphs mean, but it would seem you are progresing nicely :-)
Remember not to over do it ;-)
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Wolfmiester wrote:Huw, I have no idea what all the pretty graphs mean, but it would seem you are progresing nicely :-)
Remember not to over do it ;-)
Thanks Wolfie - you been on your pub-crawl cycle yet?? :mrgreen:

30 min, 12k 150w (light workout) TE 3.1
Steady 90 rpm after warm up til HR got to steady state (@140ish), then 5mins @100 rpm, then flat out 127rpm for last min - sure I can exceed 127 given practice :-D

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Just trying to get my body used to working at 90 rpm "default" and doing some sprints ideally getting these up to 120 for a couple of munutes :shock: :shock:

Second session later same day:

Ok second session on bike today.
Loaded the Stage 3 GPX into trax and Isolated the last 25.1 km and rode it virtually.



Cote de Herquelingue - Cat 4 (115m)
Cote de Quehen - cat 4 (109m )
Cote de Mont lambert - cat 3- (150m) - had a bit of a rest at the top :lol: :lol:

Aims
- not to burn out
- not to do anything stupid
- keep cadence up to 90 as per previous practice.

It was very hard, HR got up quick and stayed there! :lol:
Bit of a rest at the top of the last hill

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TE 5.0 Peak EPOC 275
Av cadence 91
Peak power 250
Max HR 174

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ut2 3 min
ut1 9 min
AT 14 min
TR 29 min :shock: :shock:
AN 1 min


Very pleased!
Rest day tomorrow
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Did my Audax ride on Sunday - very enjoyable, but quite a tough course and pretty windy and squally.
Did a total of 206km on the day, on the MTB, at an average speed of 22km/h.

This morning I had a spin on the road bike - took on some nice manageable climbs and some great descents(max speed 76.3 km/h, with some serious braking going on) - 145km at 26.8 km/h average, averaging 33.5 km/h for the last hour of riding.
was hoping to do two similar length rides tomorrow and Sunday, but I think we are going to be getting some rubbish weather so it may not happen.

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Great progress Huw-love the graphs :D

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paulgould wrote:Did my Audax ride on Sunday - very enjoyable, but quite a tough course and pretty windy and squally.
Did a total of 206km on the day, on the MTB, at an average speed of 22km/h.

This morning I had a spin on the road bike - took on some nice manageable climbs and some great descents(max speed 76.3 km/h, with some serious braking going on) - 145km at 26.8 km/h average, averaging 33.5 km/h for the last hour of riding.
was hoping to do two similar length rides tomorrow and Sunday, but I think we are going to be getting some rubbish weather so it may not happen.

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Amazing from both of you.

Huw for recovering from injury by doing the 'Tour De France' (or similar) ^O^

Paul for doing the 'Tour d'Angleterre' on a weekly basis ^O^
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Scoop wrote:Amazing from both of you.

Huw for recovering from injury by doing the 'Tour De France' (or similar) ^O^
thanks Scoop 8)

more training today:
More training - 40 mins easy spinning then a long climb - virtually:
Starting from Puerto Soller, the Puig Major ascent is 24 km long. Over this distance, you climb 1492 meters. The average percentage is thus 6.2 %.
Managed 23k of 42k total of Tacx ride
Mallorca -hill profile

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Was at the bottom 3k into the 13k Puig Major itself - Mallorca - when I realised I had another hour at my 9km/hr climbing speed - fairly steady 8% - which was good enough for me to say the 65 mins already done was enough :-O :lol: :lol:

Good CV session anyway, maintained 90 rpm and no hip pain :-D
Tacx didn't save session :oops: - so I'll have to do it again :-D
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Thanks Huw

I am definitely making improvements on the rower, and a lot of it is due to the cross-training effect.
The Tac-x looks an amazing bit of kit - couldn't even contemplate a 1492m ascent, even virtually :shock: :shock:
The biggest climbs I have ever tackled(survived) have only been 600-700m ascents, back in SA, probably 5-7% gradients, and I found those pretty tough.

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paulgould wrote:Thanks Huw

I am definitely making improvements on the rower, and a lot of it is due to the cross-training effect.
The Tac-x looks an amazing bit of kit - couldn't even contemplate a 1492m ascent, even virtually :shock: :shock:
The biggest climbs I have ever tackled(survived) have only been 600-700m ascents, back in SA, probably 5-7% gradients, and I found those pretty tough.

Paul G

There art plenty of 1-2 km climbs round here with max gradients 10-20+%
The alpine climbs are less (6-10%) but go on for Km and KM so need stamina ++ - which is what I'll be working at :-)

My session - Recovery day: pt1

30 mins of low watts recovery building up both resistance (160w) and cadence (95rpm)
Quite sweaty - still trying to do some time in proper riding position :-D
Still hurts at full flexion a little (to be expected). TE 2.2 ut2 session :-O max hr 145

second session later - intervals:

8x 1 min on (2% climb) 1 min off (0%)
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Went well Peak power 366 av 180 watts (240w on on segments @110 rpm) Peak cadence 120 :-O

Happy :-D easier day tomorrow :-D :-D
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Nice riding Huw =D> =D>
Let the weather get the better of me Saturday and Sunday so no riding :oops: :oops:
Did quite a bit of erging including a 60 min PB and 2 failed HM's(about 50km in total over the 2 days).

Had a good ride on the road bike this morning - 92.8km @ 29.2km/h.
The heavy traffic over the last 20km back into Reading from Basingstoke robbed me of a 30+ km/h average though :( .
Was quite pleased to average 28 km/h for the first 35k or so into Newbury over Greenham Common into quite a stiff wind - definitely getting stronger.

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paulgould wrote:Nice riding Huw =D> =D>
Let the weather get the better of me Saturday and Sunday so no riding :oops: :oops:
Did quite a bit of erging including a 60 min PB and 2 failed HM's(about 50km in total over the 2 days).

Had a good ride on the road bike this morning - 92.8km @ 29.2km/h.
The heavy traffic over the last 20km back into Reading from Basingstoke robbed me of a 30+ km/h average though :( .
Was quite pleased to average 28 km/h for the first 35k or so into Newbury over Greenham Common into quite a stiff wind - definitely getting stronger.

Paul G
Great riding Paul - and fast!!

Istarted today planning a hard session. - Loaded the stage 9 TDF Time trial into the tacx
There were several hills - a 17% at one stage which was horrible :-D :-D

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Kept the workrate high - had to take on water at one point: TE 5.0 epoc 290 8)

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UT1 10 min
AT 39 min
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Bradley would be proud Huw-keep it up :D =D> ^O^
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