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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:47 pm

Ian, I hope you have a swift recovery. There's plenty of time in April for more meta-nonathlon points!
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Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:49 pm

Ian, I hope you have a swift recovery. And once you are fully recovered I'm sure there will still be plenty of time in April for more meta-nonathlon points!
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by Ian Bee » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:12 pm

Thanks both.

I'm trying to be sensible and resting it.
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by plummy » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:57 pm

Sorry to hear of your woes Ian. I've got what feels like a "side strain" as well (upper left side behind where my left bicep would be if my arm was next to my ribcage) and it's been there for about 3 weeks and neither going away or getting any better - so I'm carrying on with it as it is. I once did an intercostal and that was so painful I had to stop for about 3 weeks and this is nothing like that so I'm hoping (like yours) it sorts itself out quickly.
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Post by Ian Bee » Fri Mar 08, 2019 5:40 pm

At least I'm in good company then Dave - perhaps collective finger crossing will speed recovery.
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Wishes for a speedy and full recovery!!
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by JonT » Sat Mar 09, 2019 2:15 pm

Sorry to hear about the injury Ian. You've had such a strong season. Take it easy!

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Post by plummy » Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:25 am

I had the opportunity to coach one of my customers midweek after a business appointment (hence the oddball 2153 metres rowed). It was on a filthy Model D with PM5 (drag 139 with damper on 10) but somehow whilst showing him the correct technique, I've managed to slightly tear my left bicep (or where it attaches on top of my elbow joint). I've no idea if immobilising it or keeping moving it (slowly) is the best course of action.

My chap was rowing at 39 spm (as he thought SPM being high was good!) at about 2:20/500 pace. I sat next to him rowing at 17 spm pulling <2:10 to make the point that spm is pretty meaningless - it may have been then that I did it... :-(
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by Liefcat » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:44 am

plummy wrote:
Fri Sep 06, 2019 9:25 am
I had the opportunity to coach one of my customers midweek after a business appointment (hence the oddball 2153 metres rowed). It was on a filthy Model D with PM5 (drag 139 with damper on 10) but somehow whilst showing him the correct technique, I've managed to slightly tear my left bicep (or where it attaches on top of my elbow joint). I've no idea if immobilising it or keeping moving it (slowly) is the best course of action.

My chap was rowing at 39 spm (as he thought SPM being high was good!) at about 2:20/500 pace. I sat next to him rowing at 17 spm pulling <2:10 to make the point that spm is pretty meaningless - it may have been then that I did it... :-(
Sorry to hear that, Plummy :!:

Guess the "advice" is to have a professional look at it... :idea:
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Post by plummy » Mon Sep 16, 2019 10:02 pm

Did that - they said it was tendinopathy but I think there was some muscle damage as well. After about 6 days of it being very painful it eased enough on Thursday to allow me a 5k trial and it didn't react so I went ahead and raced anyway. It wasn't my armed that slowed me down but my wonky technique and lack of fitness!. No reaction apart from a bit of tightness after the race so I reckon all ok now.
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by zootMutant » Wed Sep 18, 2019 2:46 am

Glad your arm is on the mend, Dave.

My back is feeling quite well. I have been doing static and dynamic stretching as well as Tai Chi.

Other things are... not so well. Last week I was hospitalized for two days with heart attack symptoms. All tests for heart attack were negative, though, and the diagnosis is acute pericarditis (a buildup of fluid around the heart). The plan is for me to take anti-inflammatory drugs for 3 months, no rowing, and only light workouts.

I return to see the cardiologist in 2 weeks for an update. I am hoping she'll clear me for rowing and moderate workouts at that time. :-k

As I get older, it is becoming harder and harder to get any sort of traction with my workouts.

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P.S. Just thinking about how much this is going to cost is enough to give anyone a heart attack. :-#
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Post by plummy » Wed Sep 18, 2019 9:20 am

That's a scary report Zoot - but glad to hear it wasn't as serious as it could have been and that you have been diagnosed. You seem to suffer far too many knock-backs for one person :-(

Re the cost - that's where our NHS and single payer systems work around the world. Total cost for all your tests and treatment would be - $0.00
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by Davedcm » Thu Sep 19, 2019 10:18 am

Hi Zoot, As someone who has had 2 Heart attacks,A quadruple bypass, Prostate cancer, has a replacement hip, peripheral neuropathy and has recently been diagnosed with spinal stenosis. I still row between 20 to 25 km a week and am aiming at a HM soon. I recently did the best 500m time that I've done for a couple of years. What I am trying to say is "Keep Trucking" and I'm sure with your rowing record over the years you will soon overcome whatever life puts in your way.
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by Liefcat » Fri Sep 20, 2019 4:59 pm

Yes, glad that it worked out well for you, Dave :!: 8)

Sorry to hear about your setback, Zoot :!: :cry: Easier said than done, but as other stated the best way is fighting back, one step at a time... Though from my own experience, heart issues are not the most preferable injuries to have... So as you write, Zoot, hopefully there will be good news in a couple of weeks :!:
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by zootMutant » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:17 pm

Thanks Dave, Davedcm, and Liefcat! I appreciate the support. :)

Dave - the weird thing is, I feel better overall than I have for the past 20 years. After struggling with my weight for many years I'm within a couple of pounds of being Lightweight. My cholesterol, triglycerides, and blood pressure are very low. The gout, sleep apnea, and pre-diabetes are all gone. Once I realized it was the FOOD, everything just fell into place. As they say, you can't outrun a bad diet. :)

Davedcm - Keep trucking, indeed! You inspire me, sir!

Leifcat - Yep. I'll be fighting back until I can't fight back any more. :)

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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by CamiCrew » Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:33 am

What did you change, diet wise? If you don't mind sharing...
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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by Davedcm » Mon Sep 23, 2019 7:24 pm

I too have been looking after my diet for a number of years now, especially my saturated fat. In fact I managed to get my cholesterol down to 2.1. I use a food diary and input all my daily food (it is a pain in the butt but to my mind worth it). The diary also has limits for Fat, saturated fat, sugar, salt, protein carbs. I always try to keep my saturated fat well below the recommended limit. It also allows you to track the 5 a day, which I always exceed by at least 1.5 times. (it shows 5 a day as 100%).
Seems to work well. May seem excessive but it is very easy to lose track of what one has eaten during the day (especially the amount, which I weigh). Works for me!.

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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by zootMutant » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:53 pm

CamiCrew wrote:
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What did you change, diet wise? If you don't mind sharing...
Sure thing. I don't mind sharing. :)

But people can be pretty touchy about the foods they eat, and enthusiasm can often sound like preachiness, so I want to assure everyone that I don't care what anybody else eats. I'm not trying to change anybody and I'm not trying to change the world. I think we each need to listen to our bodies and determine what works for us individually.

On the one hand it's tempting to think that we are all human, so the same rules should apply to everyone. On the other hand, we are all individuals, so it's amazing that we can eat the same foods at all. The truth lies somewhere in between. :-k

The biggest change for me was cutting out highly processed food (chips, store-bought bread, pastries, sugary snacks, french fries, packaged dinners) and preparing my own meals.

What I'm eatng: 95% of my diet is fruits, vegetables, starchy vegetables, whole grains and legumes, with no added salt, oil, or sugar. I don't worry about the other 5%. I use a lot of spices, and a typical meal is 50% starch by volume (rice, potatoes, sweet potatoes, corn, barley, beans) and 50% veggies with fruit for dessert. I know it sounds pretty extreme, but after 2 weeks my taste buds adjusted to where most processed food (and restaurant food) tastes sugary, oily, and salty and is pretty unappetizing.

This diet is sometimes called a "Whole Food, Plant-Based Diet" and is similar to that described by T. Colin Campbell in "The China Study" and Caldwell Esselstyn in "Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease". Campbell spent 50 years studying the effects of diet on disease. Esselstyn was a heart surgeon who believed that the proper treatment of heart disease should start with diet and lifestyle changes.

Esselstyn, incidentally, won a gold medal at the 1956 Melbourne Olympic Games as part of the U.S. rowing team. :fsbgrin:

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Re: Injuries.....:(

Post by CamiCrew » Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:07 am

Agree with you we vary a lot in what works best for different bodies. I feel best (at this point in my life, anyway) on a diet similar to what you describe. It's a diet that takes planning & effort and is not inexpensive.

Thanks to you both for sharing.
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