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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 11:01 pm
by zootMutant
Well-done, Richard! =D>

2:05 is a good, strong pace for a 5k!

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Tue May 28, 2013 7:30 am
by strider77
Nice 5k Richard =D>

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 3:26 am
by gregsmith01748
Hi, As one of the lagging members, I feel badly that my lack of participation might be effecting others. I'll have to make an effort to join in more emphatically.

As a start...ummmm... What's a WAARC? :oops:

Thanks

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 4:00 am
by gregsmith01748
gregsmith01748 wrote:Hi, As one of the lagging members, I feel badly that my lack of participation might be effecting others. I'll have to make an effort to join in more emphatically.

As a start...ummmm... What's a WAARC? :oops:

Thanks
Nevermind. I realized that the internet has something called search tools, and I have these things called fingers, so I looked it up. It looks like a very cool idea, and one that will definitely provide incentive for me to lose some useless baggage. I'll have to dive in and try it starting in June, assuming that it continues. Which I hope it does.

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:44 am
by strider77
Great to see you back in harness Greg-will no doubt bump into you on the L4 thread and others later :wink:

My last go last night in the gym, only did the 5k not enough left to carry on for a CTC score :oops:

Scores on the doors :D

19:04.1-1:54.4-27

89.5kg

61 yo

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:56 am
by plummy
Updated table. I may look at shaving a bit off the age handicapping as it seems to knock very large lumps off the times. Ideally I think the final times should be closer than they are coming out.
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 6:20 pm
by plummy
I suppose it's about time - any suggestions for June's challenge (we are tending to stick to ranking distances/times only but small variances on times and distances are OK I guess)

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 7:19 pm
by billwright
I also reckon that the handicapping system is weighted to much in favour of us 'Old Timers'. The younger section will never get a look in at the current rate. Can it be made more equable in terms of our own Free Spirit membership?

Bill :fswink: :fswink:

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 9:22 pm
by Richard Lindner
Propping up the table again
:cry: ](*,)
Bill, maybe it should be weighted more in favour of 100kg 53 year olds :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Wed May 29, 2013 10:06 pm
by plummy
Richard Lindner wrote:Propping up the table again
:cry: ](*,)
Don't worry Richard - you are currently now Stan's best friend (until you beat him of course :twisted: )

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 7:20 am
by strider77
billwright wrote :- I also reckon that the handicapping system is weighted to much in favour of us 'Old Timers'. The younger section will never get a look in at the current rate. Can it be made more equable in terms of our own Free Spirit membership?
I agree with Bill :D

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Thu May 30, 2013 10:41 pm
by plummy
OK - I've had a play (albeit a weary eyed one) and I've tweaked the age adjustment scale (C2's apparently). What I did to close the gap was a bit arbitrary but the older the age the more radical the adjustment appears to be.

So, to squash it up a bit I reduce the factoring for all age groups 50+ by 10%, then for 60+ by another 2% reduction, 70+ by another 3%, 80+ by another 4% and 90+ by another 5%. This gave the following result (same league table positions but much closer times at the top)
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Better?

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:35 pm
by GrantR
Last day of the month, last place on the charts!

5000m 21:44.3 (23spm, 2:10.4)

(38 y, 78 kg)

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 2:50 pm
by zootMutant
I think that looks a lot better, Dave. Thanks!

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 8:10 pm
by plummy
Adding Grant's time (thank you) brings up a chart like this:
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..meaning Alan W is this month's winner. =D> =D> (BTW - if I'd rowed my effort 5 days later (after my 50th) - it would have been close to a dead heat between Alan and me.

Well done to all those who entered a time this month - and thank you.

I'm happy to tweak the formulas more but maybe we should try another month or two first?

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:59 pm
by Paul Victory
Hi Plummy

Apologies, I intended to do this challenge, but it was 30 degrees in Alvor and I bailed after about 700m. Still a bit kn*ckered after my HM on Wednesday, to be honest.

Thanks for picking up the baton on this and I promise to enter next month's challenge.

Paul V

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:47 am
by plummy
A suggestion for this month:

As many of us will be doing the CTC anyway and the first rep is 1000m from a standing start - how about 1000m? That way ANYONE doing the CTC will have a time to enter by default

Yes I know it will be skewed if they are going on to do the rest of the CTC but a): we are trying to build some participation and b): there's no reason you can't do a standalone 1000m entry as a separate entry to improve your time if you so desire?

Feedback would be appreciated please....

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:11 am
by billwright
I'll go with that Dave. Good idea. =D> =D>

Bill :fswink: :fswink:

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 10:17 am
by Paul Victory
Sounds perfect. I've already done 1k yesterday (115.4 kg, age 60, time 3:53.2) so I can prop up the table for you.

Paul

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:20 pm
by zootMutant
Thanks Dave, I'm in.

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 7:29 pm
by plummy
New thread for June about to be set up......

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 7:01 am
by strider77
Cheers Dave, I think Uncle Bill might beat me for the next one :oops: :lol:

Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:24 pm
by GrantR
sounds good to me! I've never done a 1k anyway, so this will be interesting.