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Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Tue Nov 06, 2018 6:59 pm

I have taken the plunge and entered the SIRC for the 40-49 Hwt 2k which will be my first ever event. Having done that realised that I hadn't done a real 2k for a while so thought I'd better get one under my belt as a target. Plan was for 1:41, 1:43, 1:43 and then see what I had left so went ok, hopefully can get closer to 6:45 on the day Image Any advice from team veterans more than welcome
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Wolfmiester » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:21 pm

hi Felton, well done for entering, you won't regret it!
Nice 2k base to work from as well.
When is the comp?
Pete Plan intervals would be my suggestion for training, depending on how long you have to go.
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Tue Nov 06, 2018 7:23 pm

The comp is a week on Saturday so basically just winging it til then. Did the 2k so I knew the worst I could do on the day
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 1:46 pm

Felton, Whilst I would not claim to be experienced here are a few ideas based on entering BRIC for the last two years....

Arrive in plenty of time so you are not rushing and can familiarise yourself with the venue.
Look up online what the monitor race setting looks like and the start procedure is.
Have a plan, row your own race at a pace you can and beware of fly and die.
Online there is a lot that says the fast start important for OTW does not apply to the Erg. It is physically more efficient to hold an even pace. BUT that doesn't account for the mental side. Your adrenaline will be pumping so most people suggest you use it for a quick start (rather than a very fast so you don't knacker yourself). Then empty the tanks at the end with a sprint finish.
Looking up World and BRIC previous results will show you splits so you can look at different approaches people take with times similar to yours.
It always depends who turns up on the day but I suspect you have a good chance of a medal.
And don't forget to breath!

Hopefully I'll see you there as I have entered in the 50-59 category and good luck!
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:03 pm

MaxMacLaren1 wrote:Hopefully I'll see you there as I have entered in the 50-59 category and good luck!
Great! Good luck to you too Image

I am definitely wary of going off too fast and having to crawl home - I would really hate that Image
I would be happy with any time better than the 6:49 I did the other day but really I'm targeting 6:45, would be really thrilled with that Image

What time are you going for?
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by GuidonTheBee » Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:32 pm

I'll be there too - 40-49 lwt 1k & 500m for me so just waiting for entrants/timings to be published. I think Max has mentioned most of the key points to remember. Definitely arrive in plenty of time, try & watch a few races before you begin your prep routine to try & avoid a sensory overload panic when you race.

I did the SIRC at the same venue last year and we were facing the spectators who were much closer than e.g. the BRIC which made for some quite intense races. Stick to your race plan & use the energy from the crowd but don't get carried away by it - a 2k isn't won in the first 1500m but can definitely be lost there !

Last year there were plenty of warmup machines in the same hall but separated by a curtain so you had to keep half an eye on time or try & listen out for races starting/finishing. I don't recall being marshalled quite as strictly as at the BRIC.

Sometimes there may not be loads of time between being allowed on the race machines & starting so it's a good idea to have a mental checklist: feet/straps/drag/etc to make sure you don't forget anything.

Any ideas how we can spot each other in the crowd ?

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:00 pm

GuidonTheBee wrote:Any ideas how we can spot each other in the crowd ?
Red carnation? Image

I'll be wearing some kind of random faded black T-shirt and have a beard and glasses

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Wolfmiester » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:26 pm

GuidonTheBee wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:32 pm
Any ideas how we can spot each other in the crowd ?
I reckon any one of the 3 of you could borrow my FS All In One :lol:

It's great that the 3 of you are there, and good advise spread wisely.
Have a super day guys, and don't forget to post reports
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by GuidonTheBee » Fri Nov 09, 2018 10:31 am

I'll mostly be looking like this, probably in a black hoodie & black tracksters. Possibly a bit less smiley & a tad more nervous ... ;)
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Sat Nov 10, 2018 4:28 pm

Can't believe how popular the 50+ category is!!! This was taken after a long hike so hopefully I won't look quite so knackered (at least before the race) and I'll have glasses on. Silver Nike top and black fleece.
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Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 1:55 pm

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Decided to do decreasing sets of 500's in the run up to the comp, mostly at race pace. Quite happy with the numbers at the moment but not really feeling that fit for some reason, probably just a bit fatter than normal Image

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Iain » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:46 pm

One point not mentioned is the effect of the race start. Not raced for ages, so the monitors may have changed, but it was always the case that there was a delay before the first stroke taht doesn't happen on a standalone machine. As a result, if you have th emonitor set up to show average pace, there is a tendancy to stay at faster than race pace for too long to get the average down to target. this will cost you in the 3rd 500. not certain of the monitor options on a PM5, but with the info on the race positions, you will have less stats to monitor. If what you follow isn't on the screen it can be very disconcerting. Finally, I am always amazed how long I can keep a sprint of sorts going at the end. Ideally your best sprint will be if the pace drops to the pace before your sprint as you cross the line despite throwing everything at it. As a result you should start sprinting way earlier than you would normally do and remember that you should cut the slide if you lose the ability to use your legs as it is [possible to maintain high pace with arms back and rating only.

Good luck all.

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 4:55 pm

Thanks for your words of wisdom Iain
I am not a proponent of the 'race start' and plan to just get in my groove as soon as possible and hold on. Also terrible at sprint finishes. I hope the occasion helps me in this regard - probably easier to do a sprint finish with other competitors and people looking on rather than by yourself in the gym with some guy reading the newspaper on the bike next to you
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by plummy » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:09 pm

Good luck guys. I'm half tempted to rock up and throw some verbal and moral support your way!!

Is it at Ravenscraig Sports Facility/Motherwell this coming Saturday?
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:19 pm

Yes it is!
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Tue Nov 13, 2018 3:37 pm

The countdown continues

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by MaxMacLaren1 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 10:42 am

Nice rowing Felton. Yesterday was my last 2k TT, race start and pace but without a fast finish. It was tough but I hope with rested legs there will be something left in the tank for that final sprint. Today is tapering, 4x500 with plenty rest to practise starts.

P.S. Given your great form, once you finish you'll have plenty of time to catch your breath, stretch and then stroll across to cheer me over the line!
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by fkoene » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:44 am

Good luck, guys. Looking forward to the stories about how it felt. And the results of course.
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:29 am

Thanks Fred, I will definitely post a report here once I've recovered sufficiently Image

Final warmup today, a mile at race pace(ish), so basically the 2k without the sprint for glory/pace held through gritted teeth/desperate slow fade *

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This actually felt pretty comfortable up to about 1k, the last 400 of the 2k would have hurt at this pace but I think on the day I could at least more or less hold the pace and may even manage a small sprint

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Jill » Fri Nov 16, 2018 8:48 am

Courageous Felton, Courageous Guy and Courageous Max, good luck and best wishes for tomorrow and I hope that your race strategies will all go to plan. :)

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Fri Nov 16, 2018 1:54 pm

Thanks Jill, your kind words will surely spur us on to success Hopefully there will be reports of seasons and personal bests to come!
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Jill » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:56 pm

Caratacus wrote:
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Thanks Jill, your kind words will surely spur us on to success Image Hopefully there will be reports of seasons and personal bests to come!
That’s the Free Spirit, Felton.👍👍👍
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and I'll have glasses on. Silver Nike top and black fleece.
I assume that you and Max will be wearing trousers … or are you both planning to make ‘ A Grand Entrance ‘ ? :fsbgrin: :fswink:

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Caratacus » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:01 pm

Jill wrote:I assume that you and Max will be wearing trousers … or are you both planning to make ‘ A Grand Entrance ‘ ? :fsbgrin: :fswink:
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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Jill » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:27 pm

Caratacus wrote:
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Being Scottish we will only be wearing kilts, obviously Image
:lol: :lol: :lol:

And most obviously ... a sense of decency and modesty on my part, :^o prevents me from asking the most obvious question. :fsbgrin: :fswink:

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Re: Scottish Indoor Rowing Championships 2018

Post by Grobi » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:41 am

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