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Re: October CTC: 10k unrestricted

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Grobi wrote:Ian Bee, another improvement, well done! Are you planning to beat 43 minutes by the end of the month?
With all these inspirational times [ ^O^ =D> ^O^ ], it makes me want to try. I'll be experimenting with drag factors over the next week (recorded at around 120 for this time) to see if there's any room for improvement.
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Attempt #5 last night for me and again I set myself three goals:

- bronze: beat my own time of 39:55.9
- silver: beat Steve Selwood's time of 39:38.5
- gold: beat Alan's time of 39:29.6

Plan was to start out at my old time's (and SB's) pace of 1:59.8 for 6k, then speed up gradually in the next 2k (the new SB should be in the bag by then) and then see how I feel for a finish sprint in the final 2k. That's how it went:

_2k / 1:59.7 / 27 / 158
_4k / 1:59.5 / 27 / 166
_6k / 1:59.4 / 27 / 171
_8k / 1:59.4 / 27 / 179
10k / 1:56.2 / 28 / 190

Total: 39:37.6 / 1:58.8 / 27 (SB by 18.3 seconds)

The first 6k felt ok despite a pace slightly quicker than planned. My heart rate was still lower than in my precious effort so I wasn't too worried I might blow up. Unfortunately I did :oops: Somewhere around 3k to go I had to slow down for a couple of strokes allowing the split pace to rise to 1:59.8 :evil: I was able to pull it back to 1:59.4 so no positive splitting here, but that cost me a lot of energy. At least my SB was safe at this point, overall pace was 1:59.5. I knew Steve Selwood's pace was 1:58.9. I wasn't sure if I could find another 0.6 seconds in pace as my heart rate was almost at 180 now after that intermediate "sprint". On the other hand, if I try I might fail, If I don't try I surely will fail, so game on :twisted: For the final 2k I allowed myself a pace no slower than 1:58. With 1k to go I noticed that this might not be enough to catch Steve, so no slower than 1:55 from now on. 400m to go and I'm still at 1:59.1 :evil: Time to open the hurt box. Some h/d demons had gathered around my erg but I chased them away with a couple of 1:50s. 200m to go, counting strokes now, 20 "big ones", damn, still another 30m, three more and I'm done. Just managed to squeeze past Steve and completely knackered afterwards :fswink:
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Great write ups Peter. I was looking at your 39:55 (and have been for a week) and had my third failure to even finish the 10k last night (bailed at 6k @ 1:59.5 pace). The head cold last week put paid to the first two attempts and I've trying to convince myself that the 250 miles of driving and 12 hour working day yesterday had some effect on the lack of cajones to drive on through last 4k. That said - you would still have been ahead of me so I would have been a bit gutted after reading your post!
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Brilliant effort Peter, I had another go on Sunday but overcooked the first 5k dramatically so I am leaving it for this month even though it would be nice to beat Trevor, I think I need to be rowing with him like last year for the extra challenge!
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Thanks Dave! Somehow I knew you were looking at my previous result :fswink: But don't be too hard on yourself, 12 hours of working and driving beforehand on the same day isn't helpful when exploring 10 SB territory!

Thanks Alan! I can't promise though I won't try again to beat your time. I'm on a roll currently and want to make use of it while it lasts.
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Managed a 38:09.1, which I consider pretty good, looking at a PB of 37:45.4. The hardest part was rowing down from 7km to go to 3km to go. After that I dared to speed up. Full story here: http://blog.rowsandall.com/2016/10/19/o ... y-default/

I am surprised to find myself in Free Spirits I with 10 days of October left.

A Season's Best by default, because it was the first serious 10km after May 1.
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Knocked another 30+ sec off my previous PB by not doing a warmup this time and upping the rate a bit.
10/19/2016 10000m 41:33.2 2:04.6 spm 27 10/13/2016 10000m 42:08.8 2:06.4 spm 25
edit: rates corrected

Felt good. I was watching 1k split averages with a goal of hitting the PB average or below each time. One segment near the end got sloppy and missed target, but I was pleased with 3 segments at 2:02.9.

Great job Sander & the others pulling this one. Long piece!
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Well done Barbara! =D>
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Thanks Peter. (Oops, had my rates reversed)

You're doing an amazing job on these!

p.s. Sander your blog site is giving me an error, tried on my phone & a mac laptop :( but great job on the row because you bumped FS1 up a couple spots. =D>
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30s off your previous PB - heck girl, you're on fire!!
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But for your recent improvement Peter I would have given you a little scare tonight with my improvement. Splits were set at 1250m.

I have to say, this hurt!

1:59.4
1:59.2
1:58.8
1:59.0 (thoughts of quitting a 5k briefly - but only briefly)
1:59.1 (thoughts of stopping at 6k for the LWTs 6K challenge this month on FB)
1:59.7
2:00.0 (just hanging on now)
1:58.4

HRT was 160 average and SPM 27

Total time 39:44.8 - only 2.5s off a 2 year SB!
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plummy wrote:But for your recent improvement Peter I would have given you a little scare tonight with my improvement.
Absolutely! That's a brilliant effort Dave, well done! It surely looks painful, but I bet the pain is forgotten already now that you look at the result :fswink:
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In the first half of my second attempt I was a bit worried that I wouldn't be able to maintain the higher rate, but it turned out well.
In hindsight, maybe the start was too slow (again). Overall this is an improvement of 34.7 seconds on my first effort, and enough (for now) for a seat in a full boat. It also leaves me two seconds behind Barbara's PB row. ^O^
Great rows too by Plummy, Peter and Sander!

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Plummy wrote :- But for your recent improvement Peter I would have given you a little scare tonight with my improvement. Splits were set at 1250m.

I have to say, this hurt!

1:59.4
1:59.2
1:58.8
1:59.0 (thoughts of quitting a 5k briefly - but only briefly)
1:59.1 (thoughts of stopping at 6k for the LWTs 6K challenge this month on FB)
1:59.7
2:00.0 (just hanging on now)
1:58.4

HRT was 160 average and SPM 27

Total time 39:44.8 - only 2.5s off a 2 year SB!
OK Dave you can stop now, getting too darned close :lol:

Very well done =D> ^O^
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Well done Sander, Barbara, Rodger and Dave :!: =D> =D> =D> =D>

Dave, always good to see you go below 40 on the 10k :!: :D

Shaved a sec off today: 36:15.5 1:46.7 29spm - still feeling on track for a sub 36 before the end of the month :!: :D
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Got there without heart exploding, so a good first result?

Can definitely go faster than this, though.

PB is 48:01 2:24.0 from Dec 2012, so I've got some catching up to do.

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Well done J-Dog, good to see you back from holiday and rowing again, you've got 9 days left to beat that PB :fsbgrin: :wink:
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Traditional gym C2 hogging session for a Sunday morning:
Time Meters /500m Watts Cal/Hr s/m 42:56.0 10,000m 2:08.8 164 864 23 8:36.2 2,000m 2:09.0 163 860 23 8:35.5 4,000m 2:08.8 164 864 23 8:35.2 6,000m 2:08.8 164 864 23 8:38.1 8,000m 2:09.5 161 853 24 8:31.0 10,000m 2:07.7 168 877 26
Cheers for the objective Grobi - didn't think I'd crack it :D
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Well done Ian - nice pacing!
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Roger, almost 35 seconds is a great improvement. You started out conservatively but I think conservative pacing is the key to long sessions. Maybe 1 second quicker in pace at the beginning for your next attempt?

Eric, that was a stonker! Great time already, good luck going sub 1:36 :fswink:

J-Dog, that was a very well executed first attempt, but given your strong negative splitting throughout I can see a new PB by month's end :fswink:

Ha, Ian Bee, I knew you'd make it, well done! Looking at your second last split I'd say that one hurt. Well done for fighting it back in the final split! :fswink:
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Thanks chaps - and good luck J-Dog :)

Yep - my mind wandered off at 8km which made the last split a little tense.

The CTC scoreboard looks very healthy at the moment: 8 full days remaining.
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CamiCrew wrote:Thanks Peter. (Oops, had my rates reversed)

You're doing an amazing job on these!

p.s. Sander your blog site is giving me an error, tried on my phone & a mac laptop :( but great job on the row because you bumped FS1 up a couple spots. =D>
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Great rows from everyone :D

Roger great improvement good job =D>

J-Dog, well done on completing it and I agree with Peter given your strong negative splitting throughout I can see a new PB by month's end too :wink: =D>

Ian Bee, very nice job great last 2k. =D>

Eric as always brilliant row =D>
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Hello,

not yet to 100% recovered, but as rowing is not a weightbearing sport i had my first try yesterday...fell free to visit my facebook site, as i usually do not post there anything.. i made for my comeback a exception:

https://www.facebook.com/claudius.butzka

sorry peter and steve...i really do had no clue that i was so close to you all... i just rowed and looked how it went...with some hd demons in my head...
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That's a very impressive comeback Claudius, well done! =D>
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