WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Well-done, Richard! =D>
2:05 is a good, strong pace for a 5k!
2:05 is a good, strong pace for a 5k!
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Nice 5k Richard =D>
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Hi, As one of the lagging members, I feel badly that my lack of participation might be effecting others. I'll have to make an effort to join in more emphatically.
As a start...ummmm... What's a WAARC?
Thanks
As a start...ummmm... What's a WAARC?
Thanks
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Nevermind. I realized that the internet has something called search tools, and I have these things called fingers, so I looked it up. It looks like a very cool idea, and one that will definitely provide incentive for me to lose some useless baggage. I'll have to dive in and try it starting in June, assuming that it continues. Which I hope it does.gregsmith01748 wrote:Hi, As one of the lagging members, I feel badly that my lack of participation might be effecting others. I'll have to make an effort to join in more emphatically.
As a start...ummmm... What's a WAARC?
Thanks
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Great to see you back in harness Greg-will no doubt bump into you on the L4 thread and others later
My last go last night in the gym, only did the 5k not enough left to carry on for a CTC score
Scores on the doors
19:04.1-1:54.4-27
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My last go last night in the gym, only did the 5k not enough left to carry on for a CTC score
Scores on the doors
19:04.1-1:54.4-27
89.5kg
61 yo
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Updated table. I may look at shaving a bit off the age handicapping as it seems to knock very large lumps off the times. Ideally I think the final times should be closer than they are coming out.
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
I suppose it's about time - any suggestions for June's challenge (we are tending to stick to ranking distances/times only but small variances on times and distances are OK I guess)
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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I also reckon that the handicapping system is weighted to much in favour of us 'Old Timers'. The younger section will never get a look in at the current rate. Can it be made more equable in terms of our own Free Spirit membership?
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Propping up the table again
Bill, maybe it should be weighted more in favour of 100kg 53 year olds
Bill, maybe it should be weighted more in favour of 100kg 53 year olds
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Don't worry Richard - you are currently now Stan's best friend (until you beat him of course )Richard Lindner wrote:Propping up the table again
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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I agree with Billbillwright wrote :- I also reckon that the handicapping system is weighted to much in favour of us 'Old Timers'. The younger section will never get a look in at the current rate. Can it be made more equable in terms of our own Free Spirit membership?
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
OK - I've had a play (albeit a weary eyed one) and I've tweaked the age adjustment scale (C2's apparently). What I did to close the gap was a bit arbitrary but the older the age the more radical the adjustment appears to be.
So, to squash it up a bit I reduce the factoring for all age groups 50+ by 10%, then for 60+ by another 2% reduction, 70+ by another 3%, 80+ by another 4% and 90+ by another 5%. This gave the following result (same league table positions but much closer times at the top)
Better?
So, to squash it up a bit I reduce the factoring for all age groups 50+ by 10%, then for 60+ by another 2% reduction, 70+ by another 3%, 80+ by another 4% and 90+ by another 5%. This gave the following result (same league table positions but much closer times at the top)
Better?
60 yrs old, 82kg, 5' 10"
43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Last day of the month, last place on the charts!
5000m 21:44.3 (23spm, 2:10.4)
(38 y, 78 kg)
5000m 21:44.3 (23spm, 2:10.4)
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I think that looks a lot better, Dave. Thanks!
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Adding Grant's time (thank you) brings up a chart like this:
Well done to all those who entered a time this month - and thank you.
I'm happy to tweak the formulas more but maybe we should try another month or two first?
..meaning Alan W is this month's winner. =D> =D> (BTW - if I'd rowed my effort 5 days later (after my 50th) - it would have been close to a dead heat between Alan and me.Well done to all those who entered a time this month - and thank you.
I'm happy to tweak the formulas more but maybe we should try another month or two first?
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Hi Plummy
Apologies, I intended to do this challenge, but it was 30 degrees in Alvor and I bailed after about 700m. Still a bit kn*ckered after my HM on Wednesday, to be honest.
Thanks for picking up the baton on this and I promise to enter next month's challenge.
Paul V
Apologies, I intended to do this challenge, but it was 30 degrees in Alvor and I bailed after about 700m. Still a bit kn*ckered after my HM on Wednesday, to be honest.
Thanks for picking up the baton on this and I promise to enter next month's challenge.
Paul V
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
A suggestion for this month:
As many of us will be doing the CTC anyway and the first rep is 1000m from a standing start - how about 1000m? That way ANYONE doing the CTC will have a time to enter by default
Yes I know it will be skewed if they are going on to do the rest of the CTC but a): we are trying to build some participation and b): there's no reason you can't do a standalone 1000m entry as a separate entry to improve your time if you so desire?
Feedback would be appreciated please....
As many of us will be doing the CTC anyway and the first rep is 1000m from a standing start - how about 1000m? That way ANYONE doing the CTC will have a time to enter by default
Yes I know it will be skewed if they are going on to do the rest of the CTC but a): we are trying to build some participation and b): there's no reason you can't do a standalone 1000m entry as a separate entry to improve your time if you so desire?
Feedback would be appreciated please....
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
I'll go with that Dave. Good idea. =D> =D>
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
Sounds perfect. I've already done 1k yesterday (115.4 kg, age 60, time 3:53.2) so I can prop up the table for you.
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Thanks Dave, I'm in.
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
New thread for June about to be set up......
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43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
43Mm metres rowed. Re-setting the bar much lower now. Getting too old and brittle for this malarky
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Cheers Dave, I think Uncle Bill might beat me for the next one
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Re: WAARC - May 2013 - 5km
sounds good to me! I've never done a 1k anyway, so this will be interesting.