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As per pete plan post. 2k pb tonight. 6.37.9. More to come in the future hopefully.
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That's a very impressive time David, well done! =D> We do have a designated PB thread by the way: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11&start=11775. Enjoy posting there while the PBs are coming in :fswink:

I had a third go at the ctc last night. Looking at my 30 min SB (1:56.5) I noticed that my latest 6k (1:56.3) was only 0.2 seconds quicker in pace than the 30 mins. I reckoned that a 6k can be rowed at a pace 1 - 1.5 seconds faster than 30 mins so I was hoping for a 6k pace between 1:55.0 and 1:55.5. Plan was to start out at 1:56 for the first 2k and then speed things up. This is how it went:

1000 / 1:55.9 / 28
2000 / 1:55.6 / 28
3000 / 1:55.4 / 27
4000 / 1:55.0 / 27
5000 / 1:55.2 / 28
6000 / 1:52.1 / 29

Total: 22:58.6 / 1:54.8

That was hard work but extremely happy with finally going sub 23 again :D Things went basically according to plan until 2k to go when things got ugly. Overall pace was at 1:55.5 at that point and I was quite happy with it. But I couldn't imagine going faster as I struggled holding a 1:55 pace. With 500m to go I decided to try speeding up a little and see how it feels. It felt awful of course but I noticed that the projected finish was going down to 23:0x. Hmm, going sub 23 would be really nice, wouldn't it? With 200m to go I sped up further and with 100m to I saw a "22:59" for the first time. Ten more big ones and finally a finishing time of 22:58.6, my fastest 6k for more than five years :D

Now that my 5k pace is only 0.1 seconds faster than the 6k I gues I'll have to do a 5k soon :twisted: :fswink:
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Mighty fine effort Peter - you are in a cracking run of form. Although appear to be digging yourself more holes - everytime you improve on one time/distance you end up having to re-visit another one you've shown up as vulnerable.
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plummy wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:27 am Although appear to be digging yourself more holes - everytime you improve on one time/distance you end up having to re-visit another one you've shown up as vulnerable.
Exactly! I started a vicious circle that keeps me going at new SBs for 5k, 6k, 30 mins. As a consequence I had a go at the 5k again last night as my 5k pace was only 0.1 seconds slower than my 6k pace. Of course I couldn't leave it like that :twisted: With the 6k pace being 1:54.8 I reckoned that a 1:54.0 for the 5k should be doable. Maybe even quicker, but not one day after my 6k TT. Anyway, I felt fresh enough and had a go:

1000 / 1:54.8 / 28 / 163
2000 / 1:54.4 / 28 / 169
3000 / 1:54.0 / 28 / 175
4000 / 1:53.4 / 28 / 179
5000 / 1:51.0 / 29 / 185

Total: 18:55.5 / 1:53.5

Very happy with a new SB by 11.8 seconds and more importantly going sub 19 again! The last time I went faster than that was almost five years ago :shock: The row itself was pretty tough as you can tell from the heart rate. With 1k to go I was at a 1:54.1 pace and the predicted finish time was around 19:00 - 19:03. I'd have been happy with that as it would still have given me a new SB. On the other hand, if you are so close to a goal which you have been working for for so long (sub 19) and you have invested so much effort in the last 4k, why not try going a bit faster? That's what I did, having less than 1000m to go helped mentally and watching the overall split go down to 1:53.9 with 500m to go provided the next mental boost and I could finally bring the split down to 1:53.5.

Problem now of course is that my 30 mins pace is a whole 3 seconds slower than my 5k pace. I think this is going to need some correction :twisted:
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I think I've just set a new 2 year SB for 5k today at the Devon Indoor Rowing Championships. Took 8.5s off down to 19:10.0 (1:55.0 pace).
Last year I think my best was 19:12.5 ish and the year before was 19:07.5 (at the same race event)..so not too far off that.
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plummy wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:43 pm I think I've just set a new 2 year SB for 5k today at the Devon Indoor Rowing Championships. Took 8.5s off down to 19:10.0 (1:55.0 pace).
Last year I think my best was 19:12.5 ish and the year before was 19:07.5 (at the same race event)..so not too far off that.
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That's a great time Dave, well done! =D> That must have been much faster than you expected?
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Two full days rest helped (although a 6 hour drive the day before didn't).

Happy with the time as the HD demons were very present at around 1300m to go.
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Well done, Dave! =D>
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Today rowed an extra 160 meters in 1 hour. 15176 mtr now, also more then the last two seasons. Again after a days' work, can hardly imagine that that would be a good preparation but it works.
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Very strong hour there Fred, well done! Plus 15k for the hour is out of reach for me at the moment I'm afraid :oops:

Don't ask me why but I felt the need for a 2k TT tonight :shock: Target was to beat my current SB of 7:18.6 (1:49.6). Splits were:

_500 / 1:49.0 / 29 / 166
1000 / 1:49.9 / 29 / 171
1500 / 1:47.5 / 29 / 177
2000 / 1:44.6 / 32 / 177

Total: 7:10.1 / 1:47.5

A bit annoyed by those 0.1 seconds, but still happy with a new SB by 8.5 seconds :D
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Great time, Peter, I should row the shorter distances (<=2K) as well, but I don't have the courage.
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Another season's best to report from last night :D I was quite happy with my old SB for the 10k (39:30.5 / 1:58.5) as it was perfectly aligned with my 5k (18:55 / 1:53.5) according to Paul's law. Nevertheless I felt the need to improve it a bit. Plan was to start out at a pace of 1:58 - 1:59 for the first half and then speed it up.

This is how it went:

_2000 / 1:58.3 / 27 / 159
_4000 / 1:58.0 / 27 / 169
_6000 / 1:57.8 / 27 / 176
_8000 / 1:57.5 / 27 / 181
10000 / 1:55.6 / 28 / 189

Total: 39:09.5 / 1:57.4

This was tough from the very beginning. Legs were quite heavy from stroke #1 as I could still feel the 2k TT from the day before. I decided to keep going and it got a bit better after 2k. The last 2k weren't prety at all as you can tell from the heart rate (probably that's a season's best too :lol: ) but with 500m to go the projected finish showed "39:10". Although tanks were almost completely empty at that time I decided to give it a try and see if I can pull it below 39:10. Completely knackered afterwards but happy with a new SB by 21 seconds :D It's also my fastest 10k for the last five years.

Only problem now is that I have to revisit my 5k and see if I can row that at a 1:52.4 pace :shock:
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Impressive result Peter, and I agree that the final heart rate is pretty scary =D>
Good luck with your upcoming 5k effort :fsbgrin:
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=D> =D> =D> - super effort Peter. Your great form continues

I limped out of a 6k effort last night unable to hold 1:57 for more than 3.5km without having to back off and threw in the towel at 5k at 19:52.5 as I was struggling to get enough air.

What annoyed me more was I set up for a 5k cool down and slowly sped up and finished with 20:30 - with no problems breathing....but knackered legs this time :? :?
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Thanks Jan and Dave! :fswink:

I'm sorry to bother you all with yet another SB, but they keep coming in and I'm enjoying them as long as my form continues.
Had a go at the hour last night. Old SB was 14683m / 2:02.5 which I was already quite happy with. But compared with my recent 10k SB of 39:09.5 / 1:58.5 I thought I could go a tad quicker. This is how it went:

10 / 2:02.0 / 26 / 154
20 / 2:01.7 / 26 / 162
30 / 2:01.6 / 26 / 169
40 / 2:01.4 / 26 / 171
50 / 2:01.2 / 26 / 179
60 / 1:58.5 / 27 / 188

Total: 14864m / 2:01.1

Again a hard piece of work, especially in the final 2k, but very happy with a new SB by 161m! :D The last time I had rowed a better hour was on June 12th 2012, so more than five years ago :shock:
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Really great PBs Peter!!
Also good to read that you did not end the post with a statement that the result would force you to revisit another distance ;-)
Although Erik's and my effort for the C2CTC might force you to revisit your 6k ;-) ;-)
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Tako wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:29 am Also good to read that you did not end the post with a statement that the result would force you to revisit another distance ;-)
I didn't write it but I certainly had it in mind :D As a result I revisited my HM today. Old SB was 1:28:44.1 / 2:06.1 but looking at my 10k (1:57.5 pace) I figured that on a good day I could do the HM at a pace of around 2:03 (5 seconds for doubling the distance + 0.5 seconds for the remaining 1097 meters). Having done three time trials the three days before certainly wasn't a good precondition to have a good day but I tried nevertheless. Plan was to start at 2:05 pace so that an SB was safe and see how things develop. This is how it went:

_4300 / 2:05:0 / 26 / 152
_8600 / 2:04.4 / 26 / 158
12900 / 2:03.1 / 26 / 169
17200 / 2:02.2 / 26 / 177
21097 / 2:00.5 / 27 / 186

Total: 1:26:35.3 / 2:03.1

Seems my estimated target pace was spot on! :D 2:05 pace soon felt too easy so I sped up things earlier than initially plannned. The last ten minutes were tough but watching the projected finish time melt and finally go sub 1:27:00 helped a lot. Very happy with a new SB by 2:09 minutes and my fastest HM in the last seven years. Turning back the wheels of time feels really cool 8)
Tako wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:29 am Although Erik's and my effort for the C2CTC might force you to revisit your 6k ;-) ;-)
I saw that :evil: :fswink: I had planned another ctc attempt anyway, but didn't expect it would have to be such a strong one. Great scores guys but don't feel too safe too soon 8)
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WOW you are on fire Peter ^O^

Nice 5k Dave =D>

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Great rowing Peter, respect!! What's your next SB victim?
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fkoene wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:27 pm Great rowing Peter, respect!!
Thanks Fred! Although I have to admit that your times are much more impressive as you are faster and older than me (a fact that is well reflected by your nonathlon scores]
fkoene wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2017 12:27 pm What's your next SB victim?
Well, as the month is coming to an end I decided to have another go at the ctc 6k tonight. Old SB was 22:58.6 / 1:54.8 and I was pretty happy with my sub 23 time. On the other hand I figured that I had become quicker since I set that time and should probably be able to go at a pace 1 second quicker. So my plan was to start out at 1:55 pace for the first 2k and then get faster. This is how it went:

1000 / 1:54.7 / 28 / 154
2000 / 1:54.1 / 28 / 166
3000 / 1:53.8 / 28 / 171
4000 / 1:53.2 / 28 / 177
5000 / 1:52.4 / 28 / 180
6000 / 1:50.1 / 29 / 187

Total: 22:36.8 / 1:53.0

I have to admit that this went much better than expected! Pacing plan went out of the window after 1k and I decided to be a bit more aggressive today. Of course that implies the danger of h/d demons which started creeping up with around 2k to go. Nevertheless I managed to concentrate on breathing/rhythm/technique which brought me through the fifth k. With less than 1000m to go I started pulling 1:52/1:51 and the projected finish was down to 22:40/22:41. At that point I recalled that Tako had entered a 22:37.x score for the ctc. Wouldn't it be fun to beat Tako's score (except for Tako of course?) :D Yes, it would! So I kept pulling a bit harder and finally beat him by 0.8 seconds. Oops, sorry Tako, but I bet you will beat me again pretty soon :fswink: So overall very happy with a new SB by an unexpected margin of 21.8 seconds :D
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0.8s away from my all time PB - I think you should go again! ;-)
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Great Peter! Happy to be of service :-)

Before my injury and while being on the PP for first time, I did a 6k PB in 22:23.6 @ 1:51.9 on August27. So Thanks for giving an incentive and rest assured, I will give it another try before the end of the month, but it will be tough :-)
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Had another go at the 30 mins. last night. Current SB was 7725m / 1:56.5 and with my 6k SB being done at a 1:53.0 pace I hoped for a 1:55.0 pace for the 30 mins. This is how it went:

_5 / 1:56.0 / 27
10 / 1:55.4 / 27
15 / 1:55.1 / 27
20 / 1:54.9 / 27
25 / 1:57.2 / 27 :evil:
30 / 1:56.1 / 28 :evil:

Total: 7771m / 1:55.8

All was well until 10 minutes to go when the urgent desire to handle down came up. I guess my body was telling me that six time trials in eight days was more than enough and that I should call it a day. I managed to get through those ten minutes by slowing down but it still wasn't nice at all. Although I had hoped for 78xxm I'm still happy with my new SB by 46m.
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plummy wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2017 6:52 pm 0.8s away from my all time PB - I think you should go again! ;-)
Did as I was told last night and had another go at the ctc :D Target was simply to beat my current SB of 22:36.8 / 1:53.0. Plan was to start out at 1:54 pace for the first 2k, then 1:53 pace for the next 2k. I knew it would be hard to beat that time so I tried a conservative approach. This is how it went:

1000 / 1:53.9 / 28 / 150
2000 / 1:53.3 / 28 / 167
3000 / 1:53.0 / 28 / 172
4000 / 1:52.7 / 28 / 180
5000 / 1:52.4 / 28 / 185
6000 / 1:50.7 / 29 / 189

Total: 22:32.3 / 1:52.6

Do you know the feeling after a TT that you could have gone a bit faster? Well, not this time! I couldn't have gone a fraction of a second quicker, completely knackered after the row. Things went ok for the first 3k, the 4th k was tough and after the 5th k I was seriously considering to handle down. Heart rate already at 180 with 1k to go and still three tenth away from target pace, not a promising perspective for the next four minutes :shock: I managed to pull occasional 1:52s and brought the pace down to 1:53.1 with 400m to go. At that point it was all or nothing, just counting strokes and focussing on the pace. A really hard piece of work and only a small improvement of 4.5 seconds but nevertheless very happy with it :fswink:
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